Interesting Statistics


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Ok, so I'm going to preface this post with the statement that I hate politics for the most part, and I find myself generally annoyed with the election in general, however, as an American I need to vote and participate.  That being said I also know that on this site I am EXTREMELY out numbered in terms of how I will end up voting in November, although I won't really be voting "for" anyone.  I will be voting AGAINST Obama, because I feel that he is against everything that America stands for and is built upon, and that he is a racist.  However, that unfortunately leaves me with John McCain or Ralph Nader...I think I'll just write in Charlie Daniels...but I digress.  I did decide however to look up some stuff so I can make an informed decision, and here are some of the things I came across. 


  About a year or so ago:
    1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
    2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
    3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
    1) Consumer confidence plummet
    2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon
    3) Unemployment is up 5%
    4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity valueevaporate (stock and mutual fund losses)
    5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars


America decided we were sick of the Republican Congress is 2006 and voted the other way, and we got some change I'd say.  Everyone blames Bush for all the problems in this country, but he can only work with what he's got.  However, I do think it's interesting how high gas prices are and that it's very convenient that Bush has all his money invested in oil, but anyway, the Congress has A LOT of say in things and has A LOT to do with our economy and how this country is run, so I personally don't put ALL the blame on Bush. Moving on now to taxes


 www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.HTML


Both Obama and Hitlery have stated that they will repeal all of Bush's tax cuts if they're elected.  I don't really like that, and people say that Bush's tax cuts are one of the main reasons we're in such enormous debt, I don't entirely agree with that, I think that the fact we're in a war that no one supports has more to do with it than that.  I also believe that Democrats know the economy a lot better and know how to manage money a lot better than Republicans, Roosevelt did a great job of pulling us out of the great depression after all.  So I don't really know a whole lot about that, but I did look up those differences, and I personally like the lower numbers and I think that tax increases aren't going to help pull us out of anything, if anything, they're going to make matters worse.  As for our spending defecit and how far in debt we are as a nation, I think these next stats are gonna piss yall off, cause I sure as hell know they piss me off, and I'm including the URL's to prove I'm not making it up.


1.  $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.  Verify at:   http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.  $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and freeschool lunches for  Illegal aliens.
Verify at:  http://WWW.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3.  $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.  Verify at:  http://WWW.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4.  $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally.  Verify at:  http://transcriptsCNN.Com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.HTML

5.  $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.  Verify at:  http://transcripts.CNN.Com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

6.  $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.  Verify at:  http://transcripts.CNN.Com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

7.  30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.  Verify at:  http://transcripts.CNN.Com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

8.  $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and social services by the American taxpayers.  Verify at:  http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9.  $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.  Verify at:  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10.  The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens.  In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.  Verify at:  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11.  During the year 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border including as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.  Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern border.  Verify at:  Homeland Security Report:  http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf 

12.  The National Policy Institute, estimated that "the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of  between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."  Verify at:   http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13.  In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.  Verify at:  http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14.  "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States."  Verify at:  http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

 

The total cost is $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!!!


This is total BULLSHIT.  We spend that much money on people who don't deserve ANY of the rights that this great country gives.  This is one stance I am completely conservative on and am not willing to budge an inch on.  George "Open Borders" Bush failed MISERABLY in his presidency at securing our borders, and now we spend that much money on illegals.  I'm sorry, if you're in this country illegally than you should be treated as what you are a CRIMINAL.  You should be given no rights as an American would get, you should not be entitled to anything in this country, and if you are found you should be deported.  But as it is, we are spending 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS every year on these people.  The war in Iraq is why we're in debt, Bush's tax cuts are why we're in debt...BULLSHIT the money that those are costing us pales in comparison to what we spend on illegals.  Congress fails here too, they don't do anything to protect the border, hell they along with Bush incarcerate (sp?) 2 border gaurds for shooting a drug dealer who was trying to sneak across the border for the something like 8th time, they get jailed for doing their job!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  REDICULOUS.  It's absolutely disgusting.  I don't care who wins the next election as long as it is not Obama, but whoever wins sure as hell better do something to change those costs, because that is absolutely rediculous.

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world, 
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama

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I'm confused as to why obama is relevant to the discussion. The money spent by congress on illegal immigrants is large, but the money we've spent on the war is much, much more (something like $1 trillion I think I last read?).

I'm not saying I'm pleased with my tax dollars supporting people who don't respect the laws of my nation. Heck, I don't really like taxes. However, if the government shows me a plan that involves smarter/reduced spending, temporary tax increase to move things along, with the promise that taxes will be lowered later, I will support that. It is my duty as a citizen to support my nation's effort to keep itself stable, as long as such an effort in intelligent.

You say that democrats are better with money? They are the ones who more than likely want to allow all immigrants to be legal, and to spend tons of $$ on programs for that. Is that better than just shutting down borders? I dunno. Either way, some amount of money is going to need to be spent.

I do appreciate that you linked your info.

Also, I'd be curious to know why you don't like Obama. I'm not the biggest fan, either, but I'm not sure about 'unamerican' and 'racist'. Perhaps 'same as every other politician' is better?



Tangent. I know you weren't sayin' you were a McCain fan.

But be it known that McCain hates all of us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wset9i4b0b4



haha...did I maybe detect sarcasm in his voice?

Anyway, James I say he's Anti-American b/c he doesn't seem to support defending our country, and I really enjoy how he's backing down hardcore on his war stance now, but that's another subject, and really it's more his wife that seems to hate this country more than him, but with how outspoken she is, I can't help but think he shares a lot of similar view with her. That's why I say the unamerican thing. As for racist, he subtly turns a lot of things into race issues, he's made this reference to his own grandmother: "typical white person, she has her stereotypes", along with the fact he went to church w/ Rev. White for 20-25 years. That's why I say those things. However, does anyone else find it funny that Jesse Jackson has said he finds Obama condesending toward other blacks? You've got to be in REALLY bad shape to be black and not have Jesse Jackson supporting you...



As for why I don't like Obama, First off I still don't think he has any specific plan, his whole message seems to be "lets change america" ok, but how his response "with hope"...that makes no sense to me. 2nd he has absolutely NO plan to help with the energy crisis (I actually found something pretty decent about McCain on that point), 3rd he's too young and inexperienced in politics 3 years in congress and 3 years in the Illinois state house don't count as very much, 4th he's got EXTREMELY pro choice views, even on partial birth abortion and plans on passing the Freedom of Choice act which I cannot tolerate happening, and finally I can't stand his wife, and his affiliation with Reverand White.




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